The Corruption of Christianity: Ivan Illich on Gospel, Church and Society

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This series was broadcast in 2,000 twelve years after my first interviews with Ivan Illich were presented on Ideas.  We had become friends in the meanwhile, and I had spent as much time with him as his peripatetic style and my more settled life in Toronto allowed.   During that time we again and again discussed a theme I had barely been aware of when I recorded the first series: Illich's idea that the Western civilization that grew out of Latin Christendom could only be fully grasped when understood as the corruption, or perversion of the New Testament.  When it became clear that he would never be able, in the the time remaining to him, to write a book on this theme, I offered to try and elicit his ideas in a series of interviews.  These took place over a period of several weeks in 1996 and 1998 and were then broadcast on Ideas.  Four years later, and two years after Illich's death in 2002, a complete transcription of these interviews was published, with a preface by Canadian philosopher Charles Taylor, under the title The Rivers North of the Future: The Testament of Ivan Illich.   Here are the radio programmes...

Part Moon, Part Travelling Salesman: Conversations with Ivan Illich

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This series was first broadcast in 1989, following an epic eight days of interviews with Illich in State College, Pennsylvania where he was teaching during the fall semester at Penn State University.  Three years later in 1992, a transcription of the entire interview was published as Ivan Iliich in Conversation by House of Anansi.  It has remained in print to this day and continues to attract interest.  In 2000 I presented a second series of broadcasts with Illich called The Corruption of Christianity: Ivan Illich on Gospel, Church and Society.  The interviews on which this series were based were published in 2004 as The Rivers North of the Future: The Testament of Ivan Illich, also by House of Anansi.